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hen Alec Baldwin was 18 and first
attending college, he had holes in his
shoes, so he swapped them for bowling
shoes at a local bowling alley. At least
they kept his feet warm as he walked around New
York City. Baldwin grew up on Long Island with his
two sisters (neither of whom is an actress) and three
brothers (all of whom are now acting) in a working-
class family. He worked as a waiter, a driver and a
shirt salesman, and he did voice-overs for women's
makeup. He dreamed of becoming a prosecuting attorney, going
into politics, making the world a better
place. He didn't give acting a shot until he was 21, but
within a year he got hired on a TV soap opera, "The
Doctors", which led to the short-lived series "Cutter to
Houston" and then "Knots Landing", on which he
played the evangelist Joshua Rush. Then came the
movies: Forever Lulu, She's Having a Baby, Beetlejuice, Married to the Mob, Talk Radio, Working Girl
and Great Balls of Fire! When he co-starred opposite
Sean Connery in The Hunt for Red October, it looked
like he was on his way to following in Connery's illustrious
footsteps. But what followed were the well-
received but little-seen films Alice and Miami Blues,
and the trouble-plagued The Marrying Man with his
future wife Kim Basinger. Next came Prelude to a Kiss, a
cameo in Glengarry Glen Ross, a showy turn
in last fall's Malice, and a re-teaming with Basinger in
The Getaway. Now Baldwin is poised for another
crack at major stardom with one of the big summer
hopefuls, The Shadow.
But Baldwin, like Al Pacino, would rather be on
the stage, where an actor can act, than on a movie set,
where an actor is lucky to shoot one or two minutes a
day. In 1986 he appeared in Joe Orton's Loot, then over
the next six years he was on the New York stage in Serious
Money, Prelude to a Kiss and A Streetcar Named
Desire, which he passed on the sequel to The Hunt for
Red October to do. Where Baldwin differs from Pacino (whom
he interviewed for his recently completed NYU thesis) is that he
doesn't see himself as only an actor. In fact, at 36, he doesn't
expect to be working in front of the camera five years from now.
He'll probably produce, he feels, or maybe, if the righ
opportunities present themselves, go
into politics. But for now, it's the
movies and his rediscovered appreciation
for acting.
LAWRENCE GROBEL: The Shadow
seems a departure from the
kinds of films you've made before.
What attracted you to it?
ALEC BALDWIN: It was a good
film for a young audience, and there
are some very funny moments in the
movie for me. The two reasons I did
the movie were because I read the
script and laughed my ass off, and I
could see it as a movie. Also, what I
do is usually a reaction to what I did
before.
Q: Which was a remake of The Getaway. How'd you choose that?
A: Walter Hill is a friend of mine and
he had written the screenplay for
Peckinpah's original movie, but Peckinpah
deviated from that quite a bit and Walter
always held on to his original
screenplay and wanted to direct a version
of his own. I was going to do the
movie with Walter. Then they got into
a hassle about the budget and Walter
split to go do Geronimo, and he gave
everybody his blessing to go do it
without him, so I did it with Roger
Donaldson. I always wanted to do a
movie that required what I consider to
be movie acting, which is that it's not
what you do, but what you don't do.
It's all about small, and less and less.
An action film is a perfect opportunity
for that. There's always a steady flow
of action films—it's the most mined
material—but what distinguishes an
action movie is the acting.
Q: With the beating you took in the
media from The Marrying Man,
were you concerned how the press
would treat you guys for The Getaway?
A: I never thought about it.
Q: Kim said she was scared to death before you made it.
A: I think she was scared because
what we'd done the last time [The
Marrying Man] didn't work, which
was not fun. I have a perspective on
that situation now. That is, there are
20 movies a year that are made in this
town that have difficulties and problems
that make what I went through
pale by comparison, but you never
hear about those, because it's not in
their interest. So when you hear about
it, it's a vendetta—somebody wants to
get you. Somebody from that company is
feeding information, or misinformation, as
the case may be. I was
always surprised that people made a
big deal of it, because what it boiled down
to was, I worked for somebody
I didn't like and I told him to kiss my
ass. So what? How many people don't
want to tell somebody they work for
sometimes to kiss their ass? That happens.
I worked for a bunch of people
who didn't have any idea what they
were doing...
Q: You're talking here about Jeffrey
Katzenberg and the Disney
executives?
A: I don't want to name names.
Q: The problems are on record.
A: Right.
Q: They're powerful people. Was it a mistake for you to be so outspoken
against such powerful people?
A: Was it a mistake? I don't view it in
terms of a mistake. "Mistake" means
would I not do it again if I had it to do
over, and I can't say that I wouldn't.
Was it something that represented a
problem for me? Yes. But it provided
me with two tremendous gifts. One is,
I met my wife, which is the most
important of all. And number two,
now I go into everything that I do and
I want to have a positive experience. I
had very, very cancer-causing, corrosive
feelings for a long, long time. But
you know something? That was a great
preparation for what I then had
to go get involved in with my wife
with this [Boxing Helena] trial.
Q: You were also brave to have spoken
out against Neil Simon, one of
the icons in your business.
A: What quote did you read about
Simon?
Q: That you said he was as deep as
a bottle cap.
A: Someone said he was the Salieri of
American theater. Which would make
John Guare the Mozart. But understand,
making that crack about
Salieri—that's then. I ran into Neil
Simon in an airport and he walked up
to me, stuck his hand out. I wished
him good luck on Laughter on the 23rd
Floor. He's a gentleman.
Q: Let's finish the point about your
outspokenness. Given the repercussions,
is it something you regret?
A: No, I don't have any regrets about
anything. Let's face facts, these people
[at Disney] are not making great films.
You cleave off the animation department
of that company, and you look at
the body of work these guys make—
we're not talking about people who
have the answer. Lots of people have
difficulty there. I feel uncomfortable
now, because you'll probably print my
assessments of them rather than have
the balls to make a statement about
how this business really works.
Q: Which is?
A: A studio talks to any entertainment
magazine, and who is that magazine
beholden to? That magazine is dependent upon
them for access to feature
stories and advertising revenue. Premiere is
beholden to those people.
These executives say, "You print this,
you put a spin on this," and I go and
say, "Don't do that." Who are they
beholden to? Whose story is going to
get printed? What I learned is, that's
the way it is across the board, everywhere. I know personally of three stories about
movies that were made by
that company which make my movie
look like it was a picnic, but you
never read about them.
Q: So it's all behind you now?
A: I learned to live with it. The only
thing I think about that experience now
is that it's sad. All those people, all that
energy. God, it could have been better
spent somewhere else. But I found
myself among people where it was their
avocation to make you feel small and reduced. I
certainly don't want my ass kissed
when I work, but I don't
want people to treat me in
a real reductive way
either. You're making movies, man.
What can be more
meaningless than
making movies in the
1990s? The world is
becoming unraveled
and we're making
movies. Let's
everybody relax.
Q: After you made The Hunt for Red October you were supposed to do the sequel, Patriot Games, but it wound up convicting with the opportunity for you to do A
Streetcar Named Desire on Broadway. We you sorry not to have continued the character?
A: What I loved about that character [Jack Ryan] and why I was so sad that I didn't get to play him in the other movie was that it was a chance to have a real development. To start here and end up there.
Q: Do you think The Shadow might offer you that kind of sequel potential?
A: It's interesting that you say that
because I've never thought about this movie that way, but I would
hope so. After I did Red October, I
really wanted to do Patriot Games
because I liked the idea of a guy
who didn't want to be a spy. But I
always felt that the chance to play
that kind of a part will come again.
The opportunity to do Tennessee
Williams on Broadway will never
come again.
Q: Is the theater where you go to replenish yourself as an actor?
A: I go to the theater as often as I can,
for medicinal purposes. I get so down
about doing movies because all the politics of it can be enormously
draining. I go to the theater to see actors—Victor Garber, one of the
greatest stage actors in America, Amanda Plummer, Joe Maher, Frank
Langella, John Lithgow,
Nathan Lane—who's more entertaining
than Nathan Lane? Virtuoso acting is
so rare. It gets me high. I want to be a
part of that. More than the movies.
Q: Is that what you felt you did in
Streetcar?
A: No. I've never done it. I've never actually achieved it. Streetcar was an
opportunity to do it, but I don't think I
reached it. I didn't have the experience I wanted to.
Q: Why not?
A: Because it didn't turn out the way
people hoped. Some people who will
remain nameless went in thinking if
they just threw up the names of the
people involved in this on a Broadway
theater in the climate of that time, that
we only had to say the name of the
play, the playwright, the director, the
actors, that we could just stomp the
universe and become the biggest show
in New York. The producers were
very cavalier.
Q: What about your own performance?
A: I'm getting back to taking acting
very seriously, which I didn't for a long
time. I really hated it and was fed up
with it—15 years out of the 35 of my
life is quite a bit of time. You have
actors who begin at a certain young
age and there's very little change in
their technique and the depth of their
performances; they're the same 30
years later. And then there are those
who show gradations of change in their
acting, and that's a great thing to wit-
ness. And then there are the rarest and
the greatest actors who knocked you on
your ass from a very early age—the
level of self-awareness, the level of
emotional complexity and understanding, of self-control and presence.
Great acting can be almost a psychotic mix
of self-consciousness and unself-
consciousness. And that's the terrible
conflict. You have to be free to jump
off into that volcano and you have to
be pathologically self-conscious.
Q: Who are the actors you respect and admire today?
A: I like Holly Hunter a lot, she's a
really good actress. I like Sean Penn,
Eric Roberts. When I spoke to Pacino
about Brando I said the great thing about him was how much of an ass he
really made of himself. When you
watch Mutiny on the Bounty and you
see Brando's supercilious speech pattern, very irritating [doing
Brando], it's kind of like William Shatner meets
Quentin Crisp. You don't know what it
is. He drives you nuts for 30 minutes.
And Al's great line was: "Yeah, you're
watching it and you're going, 'No, no,
he's going to go over there, no, don't
do it.' Like he's going to go off a cliff."
And then he grabs you by the throat.
Q: You interviewed Pacino for your NYU thesis paper, right?
A: Yes. I basically discovered a kindred spirit on some levels, in
terms of making assessments of what works and what doesn't. I'm not saying that
my experiences mirror his, but Al talked about being at work and wanting to maintain an emotional neutrality. I was fascinated when he said this.
Q: Do you agree with the critics who say Raging Bull was the best film of the'80s?
A: Totally. And Schindler's List is the best American movie since. And
they're both in black-and-white. I thought Liam Neeson was so unselfish, that he's not doing that movie thing where you step up and grab the audience by the collar, like what
Nicholson does in spades, or like that 'I am God" thing I did in Malice. He
was just right on how arrogant Schindler should have been. I watched
his performance and thought. That's it, that's what I want to do.
Q: Why did you do "Malice"?
A: [Director] Harold Becker. I have
tremendous respect for him. He's a
man with a point of view. We went to
dinner and we just vomited up our
opinions of the world. I love him, and
I'd love to work with him again.
Q: Did you like the film in the end?
A: I don't dislike it. It just kind of
goes by. Who gives a shit about any of
those people?
Q: At George Washington University, you ran for president of
the student body and lost by two votes. Was
that when you decided to leave the
law and a political life for acting?
A: What drove me out the door of that
school was my girlfriend broke up
with me. It was a combination of
those two: I lost my girlfriend and I
lost the election. It was one of the first
existential moments I had. I was 21
and asked myself, What am I doing?
Why don't I go do something I want
to do? Why don't I have faith in
myself, God, life, the world? Go to
NYU, do the double degree, political
science and drama. I thought I would
go a fifth year and do that, which I
didn't. I didn't think acting was going
to work out because I didn't understand it. But I didn't go back that
fifth
year because that summer I got
booked in a gig. I did the soap opera.
Q: That soap was "The Doctors",
which you did for two-and-a-half
years. What motivated you in the
beginning?
A: Fear. Then I did other television
things, but I discount all of that
because I was just trying to fit in out
here and get a gig. I sometimes have a
fantasy of going back and doing a
soap opera for a week. For inspiration.
Work is work. People who are in films
and talk about returning to TV often
have a slumming connotation to it—
that's so inappropriate, because the
only advantage of film over television is scheduling. The acting is just as
good.
Q: The stories can be more timely.
The Lorena Bobbitt story belongs
on TV. What's your opinion of that,
by the way? Will this now make all
men think twice before they abuse
their women?
A: You say "all men." I would be surprised to learn that a significant
percentage of men commit acts of violence against women they're
with.
I've never hit a woman in my life. I
had a wrestling match with a woman
once. I shoved her, but I never hit her.
Q: What about your sisters, ever hit
them?
A: I don't think I ever did. I beat the shit out of my brothers and they beat the shit out of me. I never hit my sisters, because I didn't have to.
Q: Your brother Daniel recently said, "We constantly fought each
other when we were kids. I got used to kicking their asses. It always pissed Alec off that I was bigger than he was."
A: I guess I'm flattered that it's important for Daniel that that perception be out there. He's a couple of years younger than me. I was very competitive with my brothers when I was younger. Now we are all in completely different worlds. I'm not
in direct competition with my brothers for anything, ever. Stephen and I and
Billy and I are better at staying in touch with each other. Danny is married, he has a new baby and he is very peripatetic, he goes to golfing tournaments and charity things. He really travels a lot.
Q: What about brotherly advice? Ever give it?
A: I stopped giving it. I see them all
going through phases that I went
through, like Danny making that com-
ment. I think Danny's going to leam.
Q: Which of your brothers are you closest with?
A: Billy and I have a lot in common away from acting. Steve and I
have nothing in common except acting. I feel I'm two people I have
my interest in acting and I have a lot of other political interests I'd
like to pursue. Steven is not interested in any of that stuff. Billy is
fiercely interested in politics and activism.
Q: What is your ambition as an actor?
A: If I had a dream you mean? To originate a dramatic role on Broad-
way. And then to stop acting and maybe produce films Documentary
films are a tremendous interest to me.
Q: Pretty women are often asked about being pretty, as Kim so
often is. What about handsome men?
A: You don't take it seriously. Let's face facts, this is a visual medium, there's
a very high premium put on people who are good-looking. But the minute you
rely on that you get yourself in trouble. You
certainly don't make a career out of that anymore as an actor.
Q: Have you always been conscious of your looks?
A: [Laughs] No I wake up in the morning and all I see is what's
wrong with me.
Q: You went through a period where you labeled yourself a
"womanizing jerk."
A: Yeah, I wasn't straight with a lot of people. I was a guy who grew
up with no money and no special qualities. When you become successful in
this business and you've got a lot of money, it's a very
potent blend. You meet beautiful women, you've got a lot of time on
your hands, people pay attention to you a lot more than you
deserve—I acted out on that as much as most young guys do who
come to that place.
Q: When did you wake up to not being that?
A: About a year before I met my wife. All of 1989, when I shot The
Hunt for Red October, I really got tired of wasting all that energy. I
had just turned 30 the year before I filmed Talk Radio, Miami Blues,
and I came out of 1988 fed up with the crap I'd been through. What I
wanted to do was just face it I'm 30 and I'm going to be 35 and then
40 and if you want to get married and have a family what are you
going to do? How are you going to live your life? What kind of a life
are you going to have? Do you want to be one of these guys who's 55
and still trying to bag some 25-year-old actress? There are these guys
who just don't want to let it go I wanted to settle down.
Q: How did you know you were ready to let it go with Kim?
A: I met a woman who just wouldn't put up with that. A relationship
with her had to be the way I now realize it has to be. My wife and I
are very interconnected, very aware of each other. Our lives are very
intermingled. My wife's the number one priority.
Q: Full time.
A: Oh man, you've got that right. Oh, baby.
Q: Have you ever met anyone like her?
A: Never. My favorite line among my friends I called my friend
Ronnie Dobson, a playwright, and said, "I don't know what to get
Kim for Christmas What do you think Kim wants most as a gift?"
And he paused and said, "To return to her native planet."
Q: What do you find so endearing about her?
A: There's a naivete about her. She just doesn't get it. And that's
what I love about her, that she doesn't get it I look at Kim and I see
somebody, who could have had a lot more of the riches of this earth if
she was more out for herself, if she was more selfish. She certainly
would have all of the millions of dollars that her plaintiff in the case
against her assumed she had. They couldn't believe she wasn't as
avaricious as they imagined her to be.
Q: Did that lawsuit over Boxing Helena bring you closer together?
A: Oh yeah.
Q: Did you feel it was the two of you against everyone else?
A: No, the business is what it is. The real essence of this case is, there's
a certain kind of politics among creative people. I don't say to you,
"You know, Larry, everybody says you're a really good shooter as a
director, but they really think you know dick about a screenplay or how
to direct actors. So when we work together, I'm going to be a little
uptight and will be keeping my eye on you, because I'm not sure you
can cut it." No one goes into a room and says that. The opposite is true.
You say the most reassuring, positive things, knowing that all the material
terms and conditions of the contract are being worked out by legal
representatives outside of the room. If you're the director and I'm the
actor, you and I have a very vital relationship to protect, and some of it
is protected by a lot of blind reinforcement and approbation, none of
which should be taken very seriously. And this was a case in which
somebody, for the first time in history, went into a courtroom and said,
"Did you say such-and-such?" And Kim said, "Yes, I did " And [that
person] turned to a jury at the end of the case and said, basically,
"Shouldn't these rich movie stars be held to the same standard that
we're held to? That they should mean what they say and say what they
mean?" And the jury went, "You're goddamn right they should! Jesus
Christ, I'm a postal worker making six bucks an hour " And they
felt they could really drill it to her. And they did. They did.
Q: What do you want for the two of you?
A: For us to have great memories. I'm looking at a woman who is an
international beauty, who's in the movie business. She's been wealthy,
she's dated men, traveled, been everywhere in the world except for
Australia and Ireland. I'd say to her, let's go to Hawaii Been there
Africa? Been there Tokyo? Been there Europe? Been there. One time
I said to her, "I hope you and I get a stockpile of great memories." And
our wedding was one. I wanted it to be sincere. Christie Brinkley said
she had gone to a wedding that was more like a coronation it was so
unreal, but that ours was really pretty.
Q: Were you actively seeking a wife?
A: No I wasn't anxious to get married. But I was fascinated by the
idea of who I would marry. I know I'll never get married again.
Q: How can you say that?
A: Because I know I'll never get out of this marriage Never If my
wife and I didn't split up by now with the shit we've been
through … [Laughs]
Q: How much time do you spend with Kim?
A: A lot. Five times more than anybody that I've ever known before.
Q: Do you get hassled much in public together?
A: I had a guy come up to us at a sushi restaurant recently, sat down at
our table and said, "Hey you guys." I thought problem. I'm very protective of
my wife and the first thing I thought of was how far away is
this guy's face from my right hand? I felt myself sit back and torque
my body so that I could rotate and send my fist right into his face. For a
moment my wife was really uptight—the guy was drunk and had an
eerie glow to him. He finally was asked to leave and he left. But what
do you do? I tend to overdo it at times. Years ago, I was in New York
and my girlfriend at the time was bent over on First Avenue tying her
shoes and a man bumped into her and her head cracked into the comer
of a building. I was in a bad mood and grabbed this guy and spun him
around. He was a gnarly-looking older guy, maybe 50, and he had an
accent. He said, "Vat, vat? I do nothing!" Then I saw him put his hand
in his coat and I punched him in the face as hard as I could. His feet
went out from under him and he landed on his back. Then two Tony
Danza-type Italian guys came flying out of this garage and they wanted
to kill me: "What are ya doin' punchin' him? He's an old man. You
like if we fuckin' punch you, hah?" They were all over me and I
thought, here we go. Everybody's looking for a place to put that energy,
everybody's got a lot of anger.
Q: Do you carry a gun?
A: Kim asked me if I wanted to buy a gun. I said no, because if you
buy a gun you have to be ready to use it. But after the L.A. riots I
thought about getting a gun. I'm married, I've got to protect my
wife—what do you do? So I was talking to these prop guys as I held
this pistol. One said, "Yeah, that's a good gun." The second guy said,
"Yeah, but that's not your house gun, this here's a small caliber, it's
not a stopping gun. You don't want a clip gun that can get jammed,
you want a Colt." The third guy said, "That's not your house gun, a
shotgun's your house gun. That way you don't have to be a good
shot, you just aim in a direction and you'll get a piece of him." I went
home and said to Kim, "A shotgun is your house gun." Like it's all
my wisdom now. Kirn's going, "Aha, I see, all right darlin'."
Q: Can you usually recognize who will be a problem?
A: Your ordinary people are generous. The people who are not forth-
coming with my wife, who are not polite or positive, tend to be the
wives of directors. People in the business.
Q: How do people respond to you?
A: I get a very respectful and low-key reaction. I'm not Tom Cruise
where they're lining up outside my hotel room picketing. And I've
crossed the line age-wise, too. I'm not a young leading man featured
in Tiger Beat magazine. More than I care to, I have young, attractive
girls, not women, batting their eyes and saying, "Hi, how are you?
Could you give my phone number to your brother Billy?"
Q: Are there any talented people out there today who you would
like to work with?
A: Oh yeah. I'll tell you somebody who I always wished I could
work with, because she's the most missed performer in the film business
today: Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is beautiful, she was funny, she
was extraordinarily sympathetic, she was powerful, she could act, she
had an intellectual credential that could make you believe her in roles
a lot of actors can't play, like a psychiatrist. She had it all. A lot of
actresses today, they're so serious, you can see their veins popping in
their forehead they want that Oscar so bad. They're white-knuckling
every frame on film. Where's the next Jane Fonda? Somebody having
a good time who's sexy and funny and alive.
Q: Besides Patriot Games, Harrison Ford replaced you in The
Fugitive. What did you think of that film?
A: It wasn't at all the kind of movie I would have made. I can see now where
that's why they didn't want to make the movie with me.
Walter Hill was going to direct the movie, and we sat down with people from
Wamer Bros. and Walter started talking about Dostoevsky
and the mytho-poetic iconoclasm of the character Kimble and the
guys from Warner Bros. blinked a couple of times and their eyes
glazed over and it was like, Get these people out of here.
Q: Ford's films are big box office. Does it irk you at all when you
see films he's in which you wanted?
A: He's a brand name.
Q: Do you know him?
A: No.
Q: Would you want to know him?
A: No. But that's nothing personal. I have no desire to know most
actors.
Q: Part of that must be the frustration an actor like yourself
must feel when competing for certain parts. You've been up for
some big ones, haven't you?
A: I went to audition for GoodFellas. I went to Scorsese's apartment
in midtown. If he told me to jump out the window I would have done
it to get the part. I was aching. But it was like I was in a blackout.
What the fuck am I doing there? What am I supposed to say? Am I
supposed to say something now to make you do something for me?
WHAT IS THAT? HOW CAN I FIND OUT? I wanted to rip the plaster off
his walls to find the fortune-cookie-size piece of paper that has
the answer for what I'm supposed to say to make this man give me
this job. I'll drill through the walls with my fingernails, my teeth. But
there is no answer. The hour goes by and Scorsese says, "Okay, thank
you very much." I leave and I don't get the job. Ray Liotta got it and
he was great in it, nobody could have done it better. There are so many
movies I've wanted to do, that I've begged to do. I wanted to do The
Godfather, Part III, everybody knows that. One of the most paralyzing
moments of my life was getting the FedEx'd script. I went numb. I
took the script with me to Central Park and when I opened it I started
to hear the music. It could have been an episode of "Laverne and
Shirley" and I would have gone, "Hey man, I'm in." I remember one
real black-belt-genius studio executive was offering me one more
bogus romantic comedy after another and I kept trying to explain why
I didn't want to do them. I'll never forget this moment. I'm having
lunch with this guy and he looks at me and goes, "Aha. Aha. I get it. I
see what you want now. You want the good stuff."
Q: How are things now for you as far as getting the "good stuff"?
A: Tough. I would have loved to have done Lestat in Interview With
the Vampire. I would love to be in an absurd costume drama like that,
that's ripe for visual imagery. To be in this business and have tremendous
integrity and only make distinguished choices is very tough.
Denzel Washington's career is an enormous luxury. Compare him to
Wesley Snipes. Do you think that they set out for it to be that way?
All actors set out for the same thing: to make both entertaining films
and important films.
Q: When you decided to become an actor, what misconceptions
did you have about the business?
A: I didn't think that it ate its young the way it does. I thought it was
more in the interest of the powers-that-be to cultivate and bring along
people that they had faith in. But it's very adversarial. People are
driven by fear. One wrong decision can ruin your life or derail you
for a significant time. There's a lot of money at stake. Paul Newman
is a friend and I asked him how the business has changed and he said,
"Failure is much more expensive now than it was."
Q: Writer Richard Corliss wrote in Time: "Hollywood doesn't
quite know what to do with Alec Baldwin. He keeps disappearing
into his roles."
A: I'm not convinced of this, but I'm beginning to think that that's a
hindrance to a successful career in films at this time. The times
demand people other people can identify with and be comfortable
with.
Q: How lonely is acting?
A: It's lonely. You have to have other people there. Acting demands
these peculiar forums to have something special. The curse of the
actor is that you're always boring everybody around you because
you're trying to make them into an audience.
Q: Are you a complex person?
A: On the simplest level.
Q: Are you an optimist or a pessimist?
A: I'm very optimistic about everything when I'm away from the
movies [laughs].
Q: How'd you survive the earthquake?
A: A lot of things broke. I wasn't scared but I was upset days later. I
never had such a profound delayed reaction to something. The
inevitability of it. It let a lot of people know there is a God. Los
Angeles is a fairly godless place.
Q: What's the most embarrassing thing that's happened to you?
A: When I was a kid, we always had secondhand cars and in the winter time
we'd have to push-start my father's car. It was like a scene
from a John Hughes movie where all the dads would be in their suits
and get in their new cars and drive out of their driveways and here I
was pushing my father's car down the street.
Q: Weren't you in a serious car accident in 1983?
A: An old lady in a big Cadillac made an illegal left turn right in
front of my Karmann Ghia Volkswagen in a rainstorm. My car was
crushed into an accordion and I hurt my neck and my back. Her car
didn't have a scratch on it. Which changed my mind about transportation in
L.A. forever. I will never have a convertible and I will
never have a small car again.
Q: Last question: You've complained about studio executives
being petrified to make any decisions. If you were in their shoes
would you know what to do?
A: I don't have a fucking clue. I've got to get up in the morning and
get through the day. I don't have any answers. I've got to go with my
instincts. I'm another animal in the jungle, man. And in the background
in my head I hear OOOO aaaaa whaaaa—all day long I hear
those jungle sounds. I'm trying to figure it out.
Movieline, May, 1994
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